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the_spike · Rocker Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 37

Yeah don't really know how to explain it. The clearest example of it messing up a chart would be in my Hash Pipe drum chart.

.chart file is here: http://savefile.com/files/1347274
Unsigned files are here: http://savefile.com/files/1416180

:37 - :56 during mid-chorus is the best example. My .chart shows a R+B B+P R B R B+P R+B beat but the Unsigned chart has the same measure as R+B R B+BP B or something. Not even close to what I had, it has missing and misplaced red notes. The bass notes look correct and so do the blue notes I think but the red notes are all off in that part.

The only thing I can think of is an issue with the chart2unsigned converter.

I also have this issue with my Brainiac chart, check my customs thread for links to that.
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MCP · String-Plucker Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 1

I've got the same problem, and it happens on my guitar and bass parts as well. It's as though some of the notes are changed in time (an eighth note become a sixteenth), some notes just don't show up, and some new ones are added. Some of my slides up and down the fret are reversed (orange to green is green to orange). It must be the converter.

I also have a bad sync issue. I'm using a converted chart, along side the same ogg i used to sync it in dB. It matches perfectly in dB. However, trying to play it in unsigned, it's about 2 - 3 seconds off from the beginning. Not sure what this is, perhaps a conversion issue again.

FortisVenaliter · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject:

Part of it is that the way it plays Oggs... I need to find a library that will handle preloading better...
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kevnin · Rocker Joined: 23 Feb 2008 Posts: 61 Location: 202

mcp - i have that same issue of the delayed playing of the OGG
i think it has to do with offsets set in feedback
offset for my chart is .25 and the audio about one beat off.

also i converted a mid of Don't Hold Back from gh3 (adding drums to it... slowly) and some of the placement didn't feel right. i've played the song at least 12 times on gh3, but not recently, i'll admit, and it just didn't feel right in a couple places. i think some notes get jumbled around some how.
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FortisVenaliter · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject:

I still can't get those files.

Can someone please upload a chart that has this issue so i can look at it?
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kevnin · Rocker Joined: 23 Feb 2008 Posts: 61 Location: 202

i'll pm you a link in a few.
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the_spike · Rocker Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 37

FortisVenaliter · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject:

savefile.com just isnt working for me for some reason...
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the_spike · Rocker Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 37

Ok give me a sec.

unsigned files: http://www.esnips.com/doc/99f32cf3-71fa-431e-986a-f03321801fc1/hashpipe
.chart: http://www.esnips.com/doc/eb6c4c8e-3707-4bdc-9c49-0a218b3332a2/hashpipe-chart
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Knucklesdude · String-Plucker Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 8

My chart has the same problem, however it is unique in a couple ways:

1) It is quite fast and has notes varying from 6th to 32nd
2) Anchors are all over the place (after putting in over 20 hours into this chart I wanted it to be perfect)

Now, despite having two seemingly problem-causing properties, only one of of those mentioned above affects my chart.

Considering it is quite long you easily prove a few things with my chart since there are: many measures with only 8th notes, many measures with only 6th notes, and nearly every measure has a decimal "down to the thousandth" tempo (anchor) change. Most of the anchors are not at the beginning of measure. There are three distinct, repeating verses I was able to play before the "3:30 crash".

The verse with many 16th notes and some 8th resulted in: only the 16th notes were "screwy", as in disappearing or a new note that I've never placed appearing. The 8th ones are always perfect. This verse repeats quite a few times and is the same every time.

The verse with many 6th notes and some 16th resulted in: the 6th notes were all in tact but the timing was totally different, as if they were bunched together in triplets with a pause in between each triplet. The 16th notes had the same effect of the above verse, being "screwy". Again, this verse repeats quite a few times, and is the same.

Finally, the verse with all 8th notes resulted in: perfection, every note on time and the way I charted it. I have looked back in Feedback and most the anchors do not fall on a measure's start. This verse also repeats several times.

Note: the small solos are the same, 8th note winning, others failing.

Conclusion: For this case, the winning problem would be the quantizations. 8th always work, others did not.

I just wanted to be specific on this bug report to save some work for Mr. FortisVenaliter. I'm always here to help whenever I can. Smile

the_spike · Rocker Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 37

Yeah it seems like 16th notes get jumbled around.
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FortisVenaliter · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject:

Hmmmmm.... they seem okay in MoP...

I don't do anchors at all in chart2unsigned... aren't they only for development?
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the_spike · Rocker Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 37

I don't use anchors, they're just a little bit more help to BPM sync.
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